For our very first episode of the Art&&Code podcast series AMT Lead Researcher, Hannah Brainard, talks with Zoey Sandoval and Matthew Ragan, the creators of SudoMagic, a design and software development studio, which focuses on immersive experiences. While artificial intelligence and machine learning have been tools in their artistic practice, Sandvol and Ragan offer predictions and ethical concerns around how these models may be trained and implemented in the future. This podcast was made in partnership with the Frank Ratchye Studio for Creative Inquiry.